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ESG Issues: World Traits and Transitions

How are girls rising in significance within the funding ecosystem?

How are companies approaching the sustainability journey?

What’s the Nordic perspective on the environmental, social, and governance (ESG) area?

For perception on these questions, Aline Reichenberg Gustafsson, CFA, and Barbara Stewart, CFA, shared their views in a wide-ranging dialog.

Reichenberg Gustafsson is the editor in chief of, a Nordic sustainable funding platform that serves as the data hyperlink and connection hub between institutional buyers and managers providing sustainable funding merchandise. Stewart is a researcher and creator who has been producing the Wealthy Pondering® sequence since 2011.

What follows is a frivolously edited copy of their dialogue.

How are girls rising in significance within the funding ecosystem?

Barbara Stewart, CFA: Why ought to pension funds and institutional buyers care about sustainability points? As a result of girls are an more and more giant demographic by way of wealth: They’re much greater than half of all pensioners, as a consequence of the truth that they’re residing longer, and ESG subjects are way more necessary to them, on common, than for males. In in the present day’s world, that is about being profitable.

Once I started doing Wealthy Pondering® analysis in 2010, ESG wasn’t but an enormous factor. It was in 2013 that I caught my first glimpse of what I felt may doubtlessly develop into an necessary pattern for ladies. In 2013, I interviewed 100 sensible girls around the globe and requested them how they had been investing their cash. At the very least half informed me they had been spending some portion of their potential retirement funds on what mattered to them now reasonably than investing in conventional longer-term asset lessons. Actually, 25% mentioned they had been investing a sizeable portion of their wealth in a enterprise that was instantly associated to their private trigger.

I realized {that a} lady’s definition of investing is far broader than shares or bonds. Girls make investments a large quantity of their belongings exterior of their conventional fairness portfolios as a result of they like to put money into causes and considerations that matter to them, and so they don’t suppose they will accomplish that by means of the standard shares and bonds. The “feminine asset combine” seems to be fairly completely different from the standard asset combine and contains such asset lessons as aspirational investments, legacy investments, and “save the world” investments.

In 2017, I did some commissioned analysis for a worldwide financial institution. The undertaking was to interview 60 ultra-high-net-worth shoppers throughout 4 Nordic cities and write a report, “Understanding the Feminine Buyer.”

Guess what I came upon is significant to feminine prospects within the Nordics? Environmental, social, and governance (ESG) investing. Practically all the girls interviewed expressed a definite choice for “save the world” kind investments: concepts that may profit society as an entire by selling well being, kids’s welfare, gender equality, or different types of social justice.

Girls wish to act and do one thing about in the present day’s points and investing is a strong solution to accomplish this. Maybe probably the most shocking discovering was that over half of the ladies surveyed in Norway wish to make investments particularly within the gender-equality facet of ESG. They’re actively trying to find alternatives to help firms with equal gender illustration on boards and in management positions. Nordic girls see investing within the feminine financial system or the “She-economy” as not solely the best factor to do from a social perspective but in addition as a solution to become profitable.

It isn’t simply Nordic girls leaders who really feel this fashion. In 2018, I interviewed the CEO of a big company pension fund in Montreal who mentioned:

“I’ll point out that about 75% of ESG managers are girls. That is disproportionate to the remainder of the trade. So if we had been to make ESG the main focus of the funding trade we’d truly remedy the gender concern.”

If the funding trade can determine gender equality and on the identical time supply funding alternatives within the ESG causes and considerations that matter to girls, this may lead to making more cash.

Aline, what tendencies are you seeing within the trade concerning girls leaders within the ESG area?

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Aline Reichenberg Gustafsson, CFA: Once I launched NordSIP and began speaking to many ESG specialists within the Nordics and different Northern European international locations, I used to be amazed by what number of extra girls there have been in comparison with the remainder of the monetary trade. In 2019, I carried out an off-the-cuff survey to attempt to discover out why that was.

First, maybe a bit of cynically, sustainability wasn’t all the time thought of — and nonetheless isn’t in most locations — as necessary a discipline as hard-cash, profit-generating actions. To handle ESG questions, companies turned to their female-dominated communications departments. Therefore girls took roles in ESG as a result of they had been accessible and open.

Second, the world of finance is normally extremely aggressive and testosterone-heavy. Many ladies get turned off by that, however sustainability is one thing girls can establish with and develop into keen about. As a result of they care about extra than simply cash, these girls have sought and held onto positions the place they may drive an agenda that feels proper.

In male-dominated discussions, girls are
frequently ignored when voicing considerations or highlighting dangers. Of their ESG
function, nevertheless, girls got the legitimacy to disagree with the mainstream
monetary paradigms and that’s the reason they take pleasure in it and excel at it. Curiously,
males have more and more develop into a part of the dialog and I consider that’s good
information: It means ESG has come of age and is simply too severe to disregard. Girls,
nevertheless, can nonetheless maintain firmly to their seats on the desk and there’s area
for extra.

When a lagging agency desires to indicate their dedication to sustainable funding, they’ll poach an “ESG star” from a number one agency. Most of the time, they rent girls who’ve been profitable not solely driving their sustainability agenda internally, however have additionally brilliantly constructed up their very own picture within the finance group. Consequently, these stars function function fashions and encourage extra girls to hitch the sector and never worry coming into a male-dominated funding group.

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How are companies approaching the sustainability journey?

Stewart: How does a cash supervisor pivot to an ESG-aware technique? I’m on the advisory board of Kensington Capital Companions in Toronto and we’re in a technique of making an attempt to determine simply how ESG compliant or sustainable our present and new investments are.

Why are we centered on this? Martin Kent, a managing director, explains:

“Kensington’s journey into ESG is primarily being pushed so we will develop into extra proactive in incorporating ESG into our resolution making processes. In discussions with our workers, our portfolio investments, and our buyers, we acknowledge the growing significance ESG points play whether or not when elevating funds, making investments, or constructing worth. In lots of respects, we already take these points into consideration with out particularly figuring out them as a part of our ESG coverage. I believe it’s about making an attempt to formally combine the attention of ESG dangers and alternatives into how we conduct our enterprise.”

However the place to start out? To teach myself, I reached out to 5 completely different ESG consultants globally: two from North America and three from Europe. Most mentioned, “That is precisely what we do, and we cost $250K to design a customized survey.”

However one, you Aline, despatched me an off-the-shelf Make investments Europe survey for personal fairness. This is a wonderful useful resource however we felt it was too intensive for our first-year dipping our toes into the ESG waters with our investee firms: about 11-pages lengthy and round 150 questions. We determined to interact an ESG advisor to customise a simple, easy-to-complete questionnaire that may be much less prone to irritate our firms.

From there, we grouped our investee firms into three classes: Enterprise, Progress, and Buyout, which is how we sometimes consider our portfolio. We checked out our firms to attempt to perceive how their processes and practices stack up towards varied benchmarks and greatest practices. That led to the query of what an acceptable benchmark is and the way can one benchmark be relevant to a broad vary of firms and industries. As soon as we resolve on related benchmarks, we will start to speak about how firms can enhance on these metrics. The axiom “what will get measured, will get carried out” applies right here.

After refining our questionnaire, we then wanted to resolve on a communication technique that made sense for every particular person firm. Kent elaborates:

“Getting buy-in from investee firm administration is a matter because the inevitable query can be: What’s in it for me/the corporate? The final word purpose can be to have administration groups that internalize ESG greatest practices as a result of they perceive it drives superior returns. Many firms have interaction in progressive ESG practices with out formally calling it that, as a result of it’s simply good administration (‘the best factor to do’).  Additionally, lots of the companies we take a look at and put money into are smaller, early stage, or progress firms which might be going through extra urgent points — survival, liquidity, getting merchandise to market, progress, possession transition, and many others. For them, formally adopting an trade commonplace resembling UN PRI (United Nations Rules for Accountable Funding) will not be sensible at this level of their growth, and could also be seen as a ‘good to have,’ not essentially a ‘have to have.’”

Aline, it could be nice if you happen to may present some context right here. How does Kensington’s journey/course of examine to different companies in the present day?

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Reichenberg Gustafsson: Most ESG evaluation is frequent sense, particularly with regards to danger mitigation. In any conventional funding evaluation, a easy SWOT or stakeholder map will establish the place the corporate could also be uncovered to environmental threats or social points with their employees, even when solely from a reputational perspective. Governance evaluation additionally performs an necessary function, particularly in publicly listed firms the place shareholders have much less of a say individually than common companions do within the realm of personal fairness.

So, what’s the fuss with ESG all of the sudden? There are a number of explanation why giant institutional buyers are actually paying nearer consideration to those elements. Local weather change, for one, has began posing extra of a menace. Giant insurance coverage firms, which additionally personal important swimming pools of belongings to speculate, are experiencing the detrimental results of local weather change already. However given each the evolving nature of the issues and the worldwide scale of the worth chain in lots of sectors, this can be very troublesome to foretell what is going to harm which firm, when, and by how a lot. It has develop into a matter for consultants and deserves greater than a easy point out on an funding memo.

As buyers give attention to detrimental externalities, they uncover different dangers they weren’t paying that a lot consideration to beforehand. On the identical time, the youthful generations appear to care more and more about extra than simply cash. Because the millennials have entered the work pressure and began saving, the notion of investing sustainably has develop into extra in style and is now slowly coming into the agenda of pension funds and different saving schemes.

Funding companies should reply questions on their ESG insurance policies or the state of their ESG integration. A number of giant asset administration companies have picked up the gauntlet and invested closely in constructing state-of-the-art databases to indicate how the “E,” the “S,” and the “G,” on their very own or together, have an effect on the portfolios.

How does an funding agency implement ESG in follow? The thought is to not pressure a one-size-fits-all mannequin onto any funding fashion, however to allow an funding agency to make better-informed choices, whereas offering real solutions to their buyers about how their belongings have an effect on the world they reside in. To begin with, a sure degree of ESG evaluation must be carried out for every place, each time the funding fashion permits it. Ideally, the funding professionals conducting the monetary evaluation must be educated effectively sufficient to carry out that evaluation to ensure that ESG to be absolutely built-in within the funding course of. When specialised experience is required, ESG groups can present the required evaluation. Past the notion of danger mitigation, funding companies also needs to have the ability to decide and talk clearly what values they depend on for his or her funding choice.

To be credible then, each ESG journey ought to embrace an trustworthy self-assessment of funding values. This isn’t to say that the underside line must be forgotten altogether. On the contrary, well-defined and focused values can result in super funding alternatives. Hydrogen, water-purification, protein substitution, or higher well being care are all present funding themes which might be linked to optimistic ESG outcomes and current doubtlessly sturdy innovation and progress alternatives.

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What’s the Nordic perspective on the ESG area?

Stewart: Primarily based on my international analysis, the Nordic international locations have been the frontrunners with regards to embracing ESG investing. In 2018, I did a commissioned analysis undertaking for one more international US-based financial institution and interviewed 60 CEOs around the globe, each female and male, on the aim of the funding trade. In lots of components of the world, I encountered some reasonably excessive views on ESG and quite a lot of cynicism! A number of excerpts from my interviews:

“We’re cynical about ESG right here in Israel. One particular person’s good trigger is one other particular person’s unhealthy trigger. We expect saving the world must be stored separate from investing.” — Government Vice President, main financial institution, Tel Aviv

“In Argentina, 100% of individuals within the trade would say that the aim is to become profitable. I have to test our web site to see what it says about our financial institution’s function 😊.” — Senior Vice President, main digital financial institution, Buenos Aires

“After all it’s good to ‘Do Good’ and it is a crucial branding train. However finally the shareholders will resolve for you. You continue to have to become profitable.” — Government Vice President, main financial institution, Paris

But it surely was a special story within the Nordics:

“The ESG focus within the Nordics is big and particularly with the youthful generations. 80% of the buy-side in Scandinavia say that ESG influences their decision-making processes.” — Senior Government, NASDAQ inventory trade, Copenhagen

A former chairperson of a Huge 5 accounting agency in Stockholm gave me his perspective on the ESG area, previous and current:

“Within the late Nineties, I and one other accomplice had been very concerned in selling the concept inside the agency that sustainability ought to embrace not solely good environmental work but in addition social and monetary innovation. Individuals laughed at us! They thought we had been a few lunatics! However right here we are actually and there has lastly been acceptance of this concept at the very least right here in Sweden. However we should always not proceed to see ‘sustainability departments’ — all the time run by one lady. Sustainability must be within the DNA of each firm and your entire trade.”

Aline, what’s going on within the ESG area within the Nordics in the present day?

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Reichenberg Gustafsson: Culturally, the Nordics may need had a head begin with regards to sustainability and investing. Sweden is a social democracy and has excessive taxes, however the person can depend on the state for a big a part of bills all through their lives. Every little thing from day-care for youths, beginning at age one, to elder care, together with education and well being care in any respect ages, is so closely sponsored, it’s nearly free. Because of this society buys into the concept that particular person selections and income will be restricted and sacrificed to the better good. The boards that outline pension funds’ funding pointers typically embrace members of unions and different stakeholders locally who deliver environmental and societal considerations into the dialogue. The notion of fiduciary obligation now firmly embeds the notion of long-term sustainable growth, together with the maximization of risk-adjusted income.

That is an incredible area to be working a information and evaluation platform resembling NordSIP. With an ever-increasing move of latest ESG funding methods on supply, we’re busy making an attempt to make clear what constitutes a real product in contrast to what’s now generally known as “greenwashing” or “ESG washing.”

A current instance has proved motivating for our group, as we had the chance to take part in spreading the phrase about an outrageous greenwashing scheme. Nordic pensions are fairly keen on inexperienced bonds, which provide a comparable risk-adjusted return to common bonds issued by the identical entity however assure that the proceeds can be devoted to environmentally pleasant functions.

A few years in the past, a big French asset supervisor raised €2 billion for a inexperienced bond fund centered on rising markets, with sturdy backing from Nordic establishments. Due to an area suppose tank funded by a US basis, we came upon that one of many French-managed inexperienced bond positions had been issued by the State Financial institution of India, which determined to fund the event of a brand new Australian coal mine by an Indian conglomerate. This new coal mine is, after all, extremely controversial as it should finally launch monumental quantities of CO2 into the environment.

When the think-tank highlighted this funding chain to giant Swedish buyers, they turned to the French supervisor, who divested from the State Financial institution of India’s inexperienced bond. Finally, a number of different asset managers adopted go well with.

As giant buyers more and more take accountability for the outcomes of their investments, financing for ‘”soiled initiatives” such because the Australian coal mine might develop into prohibitively costly. As a information platform, we spotlight these inadequacies between said intensions and actions and thereby take part on this necessary pattern.

Stewart: As all the time, stakeholders and buyers have the facility. The ESG pattern is your pal. Observe the cash! Thanks a lot for the dialogue, Aline.

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Aline Reichenberg Gustafsson, CFA

Aline Reichenberg Gustafsson, CFA, is the editor of NordSIP, a web based data platform she based in 2017 to meet the quick growing wants of Nordic skilled buyers for pertinent information and evaluation on sustainable investments. Previous to coming into monetary journalism and publishing, she spent 17 years working in asset administration in Stockholm, London, and Geneva, together with as a protracted/quick fairness hedge fund portfolio supervisor, and buy-side analyst, but in addition as CFO and COO in asset administration companies. She holds an MBA from Harvard Enterprise College, a License in Financial Sciences from the College of Geneva and is a CFA charterholder.

Barbara Stewart, CFA

Barbara Stewart, CFA, is a researcher and creator on the problem of ladies and finance. She launched the tenth installment of her “Wealthy Pondering” sequence of monographs on Worldwide Girls’s Day, 8 March 2020. Stewart makes use of her proprietary analysis abilities to work as an Government Interviewer on a undertaking foundation for international monetary establishments in search of to achieve a deeper understanding of their key stakeholders, each men and women. She is a frequent interview visitor on TV, radio, and print, and he or she is a columnist for Golden Lady Finance. Stewart is on the Advisory Board for Kensington Capital Companions Restricted in Toronto. All of Stewart’s analysis is offered on Barbara Stewart.

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